Because the BETA are only, as I've pointed out a few times now a *single world* threat and if your going to make this a "vs" discussion you need to pit two comparable forces. So no, the Tyranids are not the numerous inumerable horde you think they are for the purposes of this discussion because point of order, even if it were true the entirety of the Tyranid Milky Way invasion force is simply not relevant. I'll trust the games as being the closest thing to a reasonable compromise between the perfect imbalance mechanics of the tabletop and the ridiculously grimdark overthetop HAM of the fluff thank you very much unless there is some credible reason as to value the canonicity of the fluff above all else to the contrary. I trust the fluff as about as far as I can throw it (not very far). The Tyranids never will win, neither will the Imperium, or the Necrons, or the Orks, or the Tau, or the Eldar or their Emonihilistic cousins and etc. The fluff is Imperial propoganda designed to further the totalitarian xenophobic regime of an old cripple when if everyone was to join the Tau there would be peace :rolleyes. Unlike BETA, a Hivefleet would devour ML´s Earth in months - not thirty years and counting.Īnd in the fluff its also said that a single Space Marine can if taken enough time can convert and that the Eldar plan centuries ahead, and that the Necrons are immortal with inertialless drives, the Ork WAAAAAGH is/are unstoppable and so on and so on and so on.
It is estimated that they would have to arm every man, woman and child in the galaxy, all quadrillions of them, to get humanity a fighting chance against the main Hivefleet. I never said that any of that, but the Imperium takes hideous losses to stop Tyranids. It helps that the only world that matters in the Imperium could in theory hold off any attack made by any faction being the single most fortified planet in the whole galaxy so every other planet is expendable and thus Exterminatus if need be. The Nids' however have iirc some sort of FTL capabilities with their Hiveworlds though? So the BETA will wreck any world they happen to land on while the Nids can threaten a large number of worlds (if not galaxies) but can be stopped with sufficient force. Hey wait a minute this sounds familiar!) compared to the TSF's of all the front line nations that focus on keeping them in the field for as long as possible with as little maintanance as possible, because the Americans figure they can just nuke any hive that comes at them.Ĭanada :( nice to know I'm dead in this setting.Īs for Nids' vs Beta I think the BETA are physically much stronger, larger and much more of a threat (I think the most numerous BETA is larger than those Hivelord thingies from the game, there's a chart at the SA thread). Like America has a fair amount of resentment in this setting as its the only nation that's still focusing on Anti-TSF capabilities (high maintance low uptick high performance weapon systems. The show I think definitely has its strong points but depends on how much you like nerding out on fictional military capabilities, I think some people compare it favourably with Top Gun so there you go, if you liked that you'll like this. The show started kinda bad in that you had a rushed 2 part introductory arc with characters we largely didn't care about and really need a third episode to pace it right, but with the introduction of Yuuya Bridges and the quirky Nepalese girl and the Russians its gotten a lot better. Aside from First Squad I can't actually think of one which is odd consider as they technically border Japan.
I like Muv Luv, it has the Soviets in it as an actual y'know thing even if they have been more or less ghetto'ed to Alaska (as all of the refugee nations are now cooperating to develop the technology with the reluctant support of the Americans). I was debating making a thread but wasn't sure how much the forum liked/appreciated anime though Stark his gundams was a good sign.
I post in that thread you linked D: We've come full circle!